Amy's Success Journey from Resistance to Resilience

Jim Hill:

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Holly Wyatt:

And I'm Holly Wyatt. We're both dedicated to helping you lose weight, keep it off, and live your best life while you're doing it.

Jim Hill:

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Holly Wyatt:

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Jim Hill:

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Holly Wyatt:

Let's dive in.

Jim Hill:

Here we go. Today, we're bringing you something truly inspiring, a real-life success story that's sure to motivate and uplift. Holly, I love these success stories.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah, they're my favorites. So we're featuring another listener success journey. We spend a lot of time diving into the science and the strategies of weight loss, and I like that. That's important. But there's nothing quite like hearing a firsthand account. These stories take the science off the page and into real life, the victories, the struggles, and the powerful transformations that remind us every journey is one of a kind.

Jim Hill:

Exactly. And you know, success doesn't look the same for everyone. And that's what makes these stories special. What works for one person doesn't for another. And today's guest is no exception to this. Let's dive in and meet Amy. Amy, thank you so much for joining us and sharing your incredible journey with us and our listeners.

Amy:

Thank you for having me.

Holly Wyatt:

Yes. Welcome, Amy. We are so thrilled to have you. And why don't we just get started with a quick snapshot. You can't tell us all, but just tell us a little bit about how your journey started and kind of where you are now. And then we can unpack what happened in between.

Amy:

I started State of Slim in 2018 in one of the live classes in April, a 16-week program. And I think what brought me there was years of going down a road of being very unhappy. And I was really looking for something that could really help facilitate the change that I was seeking. But I knew I really needed the support. I found you guys on, I think it was a social media ad or something like that, and came into the class. It was one of the most difficult things I think I've ever done to put myself out there and walk into that class. It's funny because I had sort of an attitude when I went in that, well, I'm just going to come in and drop maybe seven or eight pounds and then just exit, you know, just kind of take off after that and just take the care of the rest of this on my own and then I can go off the plan. And so I had a pretty shallow view of what this program was really about. So needless to say, once I started to go through the program and realized how holistic and how broad-based the program really is, it really began to touch a much deeper level for me. It's not just a diet, not just another diet. I had been on plenty of diets in my 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, throughout the years, but it was never sustainable. I'm just constantly yo-yo back and forth. So to me, this was just coming in thinking, I think this is just another, I'm just going to grab a couple of pounds off and then I'm going to take off, you know, and I'll just, basically what I was saying to myself is I was going to go back to my old habits.

Holly Wyatt:

Giving yourself a way out.

Amy:

Exactly. I’m like, I'm just going to check in and then check out. So when I got in there, and the coach who was so great and the other, I think, eight or nine people that were in this class, that was the very first exposure I think I had to getting vulnerable and stepping out of my comfort zone. And it was big time. So got on the scale. It was 173 pounds. I knew I was 20 to 30 pounds above where I needed to be. And just week by week, I lost, I think, three and a half pounds the first week. So it was a big push for me momentum-wise. And I started to get pretty enthused about it. But being with the other people in the room around that table was so powerful because everybody was, you know, it's a shared experience. Everybody's there in a variety of different situations. So it was just week after week, you know, in the homework assignments, the things I resisted the most ended up being the most beneficial.

Jim Hill:

Oh, I love that.

Holly Wyatt:

Let me say what I'm hearing here, because, you know, I hear that you came in unhappy. You were looking for happiness. Isn't that interesting, Jim? She wasn't necessarily just looking for weight loss. She was looking for weight loss and happiness, right? Change in your life. And I also heard you say that it's got to be bigger than just about the weight. It's more than that holistic type like that. I want to make it clear, this is not a program. I think there's other programs. State of Slim is not the only program. What I really like about this, though, is it shows some themes like happiness and unhappiness, driving behavior, holistic, bigger than just the weight loss, that type of stuff.

Jim Hill:

It really relates to motivation. If the scale is your only measure of success, you're probably not digging deep enough. Amy, I just want to say that I think you have got this being uncomfortable thing for the fact that you're willing to come on this podcast and share your story. So I really want to give you credit for that. That is very brave.

Amy:

Thank you. Yeah.

Jim Hill:

The other thing that I got out of that is the idea that you felt like you needed support, but then at the end of the day, I should be able to do it myself. I shouldn't have to rely on support. And I got to tell you, the more we're into this, I think you need support throughout. The support may differ. It is hard to change your weight and change your life. And this idea that you just buck up and do it, I got to tell you, you need all the help and support you can get. And I think that is something you learned. And now I suspect you're not afraid to ask when you need support.

Holly Wyatt:

Now, Jim, you just said what you said you weren't going to do anymore.

Jim Hill:

What's that?

Holly Wyatt:

We need support. You need connection. You need other people. But it's so hard. It's not hard. It doesn't have to be hard.

Jim Hill:

Okay.

Holly Wyatt:

[6:38] We're not going there.

Jim Hill:

I got to quit saying it's hard. It's interesting. It's a journey. It's an interesting journey. Got it.

Holly Wyatt:

Yes. It can be fun. It can be.

Jim Hill:

Mea culpa.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah. So, Amy, that was six years ago. You say you started in 2018, six years ago. Tell us just briefly, where are you today? And then we'll get into, I know the path wasn't straight. It never is. But where are you today?

Amy:

Today? My goal was 30 pounds once I got moving and I became very connected to this program was 30 pounds. And I did reach that a little bit after the 16 weeks. And so that's always been my ultimate sort of benchmark where I want to be. So certainly, yes, it's been up and down, but I, I am just within three or four pounds of that number. So I'm very happy right now. and the whole exercise component is a big part of my life.

Holly Wyatt:

So you're in maintenance. Are you in maintenance right now?

Amy:

Yes. Yes.

Jim Hill:

So you're happy. You would be happy if you could keep this weight.

Amy:

Yes. Yes. I'm very happy with the weight where I am now. But as Holly said, the journey to that has certainly been a bit of a windy road. But for me, I don't know if you guys were asking me what, maybe you want to ask about motive, what motivates me to stay at this weight. And it's kind of funny that you mentioned about the hard. This program for me was, the 16 weeks was one of the hardest things I've ever done. And initially for the first year or so, I was motivated by what Dr. Holly called the stick. I did not ever want to have to repeat that program again. So I was motivated and have been motivated to keep the weight off at least.

Holly Wyatt:

This is interesting because you talk about the 16-week program. So in 2018, it was a 16-week program and I very much believed in Warrior. I was like, just do it, get it done, right? And that's how I've lived most of my life. It's more recently, and I've evolved, we've evolved the program. It's now a 12-week program. Yes, you've got to, you got to be willing to be uncomfortable, but you can choose to see it different, like warrior suffer, sacrifice going into battle versus opportunity, possibility, this Voyager mind state we talk about a lot now versus this Victor suck it up mind state. So this is something that's evolved in terms of how I coach and how I see this process. But you were very much in. You're right. That's how it was presented.

Jim Hill:

So I'm partially vindicated here.

Holly Wyatt:

You're partially vindicated.

Jim Hill:

So Amy, what I would like to know, I've become, and Holly too, very interested in how we define success as people are going about managing your weight. So talk to our listeners about what your goals were when you first started thinking about managing your weight versus how you see your success now, maybe in ways beyond just your weight.

Amy:

Yeah, as I said initially, there was a little bit more fear there of regaining the weight, so the motivation was strong to stay out of that regain category. I think now it's been a significant amount of time, so I feel pretty balanced because I've found ways to work the maintenance so that I still feel that I'm living my life. We traveled to Italy recently on a wonderful cycling trip, which, by the way, is something I never would have done before State of Slim, and had some of the most amazing food ever. And I was able to, I wouldn't say indulge so much. I wasn't like overeating, but I was eating some of those foods, enjoying all of those foods. I did not gain any weight on that trip. So there's somehow not feel deprived, which the indulgence meals in the beginning of the program really helped me learn that, that there was a balance. It wasn't just an on or off thing. So it feels a lot more balanced, but I also have an additional exercise change that's come through that's really added a new dimension to my weight loss maintenance as well. It's sort of a step up in my exercise routine.

Jim Hill:

So you've clearly achieved success using the scale as a measure. How about other aspects of your life?

Amy:

Well, that's really where the icing on the cake from the beginning. It was so difficult to walk into that class. But I recall about midway, we were in one of the classes and as hard as that program was, I started to experience some incredible emotions, really joy that started to come into my way of being right midway through the 16-week program. The challenges of maybe having to drop a few pounds or to get back to the zone that I want to be in, the way I feel now, it was hard to kind of get certainly to this point. But when they talk about that choosing your hard, there's something about that statement. And I recall thinking back that it's hard to be overweight and it's certainly hard to lose the weight. But I was in a state before where it was a dead end for me. But if I choose this to lose or to maintain the weight and become vulnerable, that stepping out of my comfort zone, what's on the other side is just amazing.

Holly Wyatt:

I love it that you say, I started to feel joy. So you started to have some of these emotions. That’s what we want. Happiness, joy, satisfaction. Those are the things we all want. They're universal now. We may get there in different ways, but that's really ultimately was. So you started feeling it before you got to the weight loss, before you're finished with the weight loss, which is, I think, one of the big keys in a true transformation. The weight is not a condition that produces happiness. Happiness or joy, which you started to feel in the program, produces the weight loss, produces the outcome, produces the condition, if you want to say it. That is, to me, one of the big, big secrets. And people sometimes say, no, I'm not going to deal with that. Get the weight off and then I'll be happy. And I'm like, no, let's be happy now and we'll get the weight off.

Jim Hill:

So let's talk about Amy, as you go through your journey, it probably wasn't all smooth sailing. It very seldom is. Talk about maybe some of the challenges, the bumps in the road and how you dealt with those.

Holly Wyatt:

You had some curve balls. I know.

Amy:

During the weight loss portion, the homework assignments were so challenging sometimes, but I started to learn that the more I didn't want to do it, the more benefit there was going to be. So that was something that during the program itself, I did have a pretty smooth ride on that end of weight loss though, through the program. I lost weight each week, almost every week on the 16 weeks. So that was, it's the motivation, the momentum. I love that word because once I had that momentum going in the right direction, it would continue. And then of course, when I went on maintenance, weight loss maintenance, there were definitely bumps. And then, especially as we rolled into the COVID time period, a lot of people struggled with that. So the momentum sometimes went the wrong way. So, you know, I was up 10 pounds after the COVID period. And I jumped into a couple of months of your monthly class and I worked and got that off because I just knew that that was where I want to be.

Holly Wyatt:

So Jim, doesn't that fall right in with what people in the National Weight Control Registry say?

Jim Hill:

Oh yeah.

Holly Wyatt:

I mean, she knew what to do, right? It's not that you never regain a few pounds.

Jim Hill:

Well, and it's gaining confidence that you could do it. So I bet you, when you were up 10 pounds, you knew you were going to go and get it off because you had learned what you needed to learn and you had confidence in your own ability to do it.

Amy:

Yeah. Well, I also particularly had confidence in the program. This program for me, that combination, the specific framework of the food, the protein and carbohydrate combination has been just such a foundation for me throughout the time to maintain or get back to weight loss if I need to. So I had confidence in the program. I knew the program, always known the program would work. But being in the group is very important for me. And that was a huge motivation for me in the initial 16 week. It was a giant tether that kept me connected and accountable.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah. So I want to hear how much physical activity were you doing when you started? And how much physical activity are you doing now? And what does that look like?

Amy:

It's one of my favorite topics. So I did have an advantage coming in because I did come in already with the exercise component in place. So I feel, you know, in my younger years, I started, I took up running one in my 20s and I was just became addicted to exercise since that time. So that has been instrumental probably in preventing me from putting more weight on than I did when I finally ended up at the door of State of Slim. So that's always been a great benefit for me. I came in with a pretty strong exercise, but it wasn't getting the weight off. It was just slowing the weight gain, I believe. But it was taking a toll on my body too because I was getting a little heavy. When I came in, I had that. I did increase a little bit during the 16 weeks, but once I was on the weight loss, the food plan, I think, what got the weight off faster. I've always been a solo exerciser. I have equipment in my den. I have all sorts of cardio equipment and things like that. But I actually, over the last year, I felt like I was hitting an exercise plateau. And for me, it's normally about an hour, has been an hour to an hour and a half. That's combined with yoga and then cardio on spin bike.

But I just felt as though in the last year I hit this plateau and getting ready for this Italy trip, I wanted to increase my, just see where I was with cycling and my endurance on biking. So I jumped into this cycling club in Denver and really learned what an entirely new dimension of athletes, of athletics there is with these guys. I have been chasing them since July to try to catch up to them. So I'm embarking on this this program which is in a group too by the way. I would never even think about getting into any type of group and talk about being vulnerable. I mean stepping into these. I'm the slowest one in the pack, see you guys at the end of the ride. They're amazing. They'll go out for two three hour rides, 30 40 50 miles and I have just hit where I can do 30, took me two and a half hours.

I'm so excited about it because I'm working with a coach. I had some physical, some, I don't know if you probably find it with the VO2 max testing is. I just had that done. And so I'm working with a great coach. The group is wonderful. They're a nonprofit organization. My goal this winter is to catch them and be able to enjoy these rides today with the group, but just this past end of the summer, I started dropping some weight right away. It was like really shifting things around for me. So I'm loving it.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah. And what I love about this, it's not that other people, oh my gosh, I've got to be riding that much that doing that, but it's that you have this ability to find the groups and the things that bring you joy. I can tell by you talking about this, this is something that brings a lot of joy and what you enjoy doing in your life. And now you have the confidence to do that and you have the body state to do that. And even though you're the slowest one, that didn't stop you. That's the huge piece.

Amy:

I kept thinking about it. It started in July and I must have shown up for 10 or 15 rides now. And it's guaranteed that when I come, I'm the slowest one. So I just keep showing up, keep showing up, keep showing up.

Jim Hill:

But you enjoy it, Amy. And that's a big part of it. If you don't enjoy moving, you're probably not going to stick with it. What we found is most people can find something they like to do. And one of the things I think, Holly, this illustrates is Amy came to the program already exercising. So she had a lot of skills for keeping weight off. What she needed was the food intake skills that get the weight off.

Holly Wyatt:

I just saw that, yeah.

Jim Hill:

And other people are going to come in having done stuff on the food side, not the exercise side. So you got to do both. And we've said over and over, food restriction is how you get the weight off, but exercise is how you keep it off. It's a great example of where everybody's different. You start where you are, but at the end, you've got to do both. You've got to find a healthy diet and you've got to find a way of incorporating movement into your life just about every day.

Amy:

Yeah, for sure. It does give me great joy to ride and to ride with the group. And now I have a personal goal to just increase my fitness as much as I can. I'm 64 years old and there are some 80s folks in their 80s that are doing century rides in this group. So I'm just inspired to see where I can go.

Jim Hill:

Well, just to tell you, VO2 max is probably the single best predictor of longevity.

Amy:

Just walking in that door was hard enough when I went into a place called the Fast Lab down in Denver. It was like, oh, my gosh. But it's great. and so we're using that as the base and we're just gonna see what happens this winter.

Holly Wyatt:

People probably will have set some goals for themselves in 2025 and I always say the hardest part is the motivation to keep going. Everybody can start in beginning of January but who's still doing it in February, in March, in April, in May? So what mental strategies did you use to stay positive and to stay moving forward on track? Momentum, you used that word. What did you use? Anything specific for us?

Amy:

I think during the weight loss, it was just taking it one week at a time. You know, walking and getting the groceries the first time at the beginning of the program is tough and making that complete change, just putting one foot in front of the other and building that momentum. But yeah, one day at a time. If you think about, oh, I've got to lose 30 or 50, it's overwhelming. But if you just take that one step at a time and follow those pieces, you know, the assignments we held them, you know, there are great benefits from that. And for me, just feeling the transformation in my emotional state is so strong that I'm just very protective of that. Don’t want to go back.

Jim Hill:

That's great. The program provided some structure for you doing weight loss. But talk about the role that support from other people played, and where did you get that support?

Amy:

I'm fortunate. My husband and my family are very supportive and have been very supportive from day one. As we started, I started to cook differently and stock the pantry differently. They were great about going along. My daughter in particular was so much fun during the program to see her. I just sort of did what I needed to do and modeled the behavior that I might want or wanted for her. And she basically just joined in.

Jim Hill:

Wow.

Amy:

Yeah. She loved the foods that I was cooking, some of the homework assignments that I did, the transformational assignments for, one was changing something in your environment that you see every day. And so that was my big project with the dresser where I pulled everything out of the dresser. That was cleaned the whole thing out. Everything in the large sizes went away. It was not going back to that. So there was a whole cleansing and she sat down on the floor with me and did that and did that in her room and just on her own. And so the support was pretty cool in the family.

Jim Hill:

If I ask your husband, what's different about Amy at her new weight, what would he say?

Amy:

I think probably her emotional state, the ability to be out in the world. I was completely hold up before embarking on the program. I didn't want to see people who maybe I hadn't seen in decades or years. I didn't really want to travel very much. I didn't want to be out in the world. When I completed this program, I just was like opening all of the doors. I wanted to be just engaged, you know, even taking pictures. I had a lot of people talk about that. I didn't want any pictures of myself. And we had a big trip that year to New Zealand in 2018. And I was ready to go when we went. It was so much fun because it's like being a new person.

Jim Hill:

I bet he would say the new Amy is more fun.

Amy:

Yes.

Holly Wyatt:

There we go. Yes.

Holly Wyatt:

Amy, if you could go back to the beginning, what advice would you give yourself at the very beginning of your journey now that you've got the hindsight. What advice would you give?

Amy:

Be open to what could be possible. I'm just always think in this little box. That's kind of how I walked into the class, oh, I'm just going to take these pounds off and get a little head start and then I'm going to go home and just go back to what I was doing. And I resisted. I remember when she was assigning these things each week, like weighing, getting on the scale. I fought that one hard. But I would just say, yeah, be more open.

Holly Wyatt:

So why do you think you were closed at that moment? Why were you so resistant? What do you think was going on?

Amy:

It'd be prior failures. I had plenty of failures in 20s, 30s, where I would kick on to a cleanse program or grab something else. And it only could go for a month or so. Just in and out of different programs. So I think it was sort of a habitual thought process.

Holly Wyatt:

I also think it's fear. There's a lot of fear. And then what you learn is, okay, I can get uncomfortable. I can face a little bit of that fear. And it actually opens you up to possibilities. And then that momentum starts. So I always say, the mindset shift in a weight loss program and a weight loss challenge, anything, whatever you're doing to lose weight is the key. You've got to have that shift. And sometimes when you start, you don't even recognize, and that's what I'm hoping maybe listeners are going to hear in your story. This is where you're starting. You don't even recognize there's something else that you could open your mind in a different way.

Amy:

That's exactly right. I didn't have any. I mean, I knew there was something to it and I don't even know what. It was just something I saw on social media. It wasn't like someone said, “Oh, this program is great. You should go.” I just happened to see it. I called it, said, I'm just going to come into the first class like, check it out. Right. You weren't committed to it. And just one foot in front of the other and be open. That would be my message to myself. And it's helped me with other challenges. This cycling club to show up for that first ride. No way would I have done that before but I try not to worry about it. I would laugh about it. There's a social time after the rides. Everybody's very encouraging. And I'm like, I'll be back next time looking at you guys ahead of me. That's okay but give me this winter, I'm going to catch you.

Holly Wyatt:

I love it.

Jim Hill:

Amy, what are you most proud of when you look back at your journey, everything you've accomplished?

Amy:

I think sticking with it. I know how hard it is, having been through it. I know there were some people in the group who really struggled and were in and out. But I do think staying with it. And then I immediately signed up for another class that Holly had in August. And I can't remember the name of the class, but it was long also. And just staying in the game.

Jim Hill:

A lot of people have losing weight as a New Year's resolution. Talk to those people. Give them your advice as they say, my New Year's resolution is to lose weight.

Amy:

I would say, think about it in a broader way than that. Not just, okay, I got these holiday pounds, I've got 10 or whatever it might be for someone. I come into this State of Slim program or whatever program, but certainly State of Slim, with an open mind to other things than just the weight loss, too. And that might be something that helps that person to go beyond the month of January, for example, and see what deeper things that you're really looking for that you want in your life.

Holly Wyatt:

Yes. Bigger than weight loss. I always say it has to be bigger than weight loss. You can get the weight loss. We're not taking away the weight loss. People always think, oh, you're trying to shift it and tell me I'm going to be happy with something else. I'm like, no, you can have the weight loss, but it's got to be that “and”.

Jim Hill:

It's your life. You can't separate your weight from your life. And you really have to look at your whole life when you start a journey.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah.

Amy:

And that was the key for me as far as it being transformational for me, because again, I didn't have that attitude when I went in. But as the coach was saying, what is the why? Why are you here? Why?

Jim Hill:

That's an important question.

Holly Wyatt:

Well, and it evolves. So I'm going to put you on the spot, Amy, because you've been there. Why are you doing it now? Why do you continue? What is your why? It may have evolved. Probably isn't the same why when you walked in, but what's your why right now?

Amy:

Yeah, I think maintaining the lifestyle that now I would never want to give up, you know, being in the world, being proud of how I'm doing physically and yes, how I look and how I feel. There is no going back for me but I also think now as I'm getting older too this challenge with the cycling club is part of that. I also want to maintain my my physical health.

Holly Wyatt:

Why do you want to maintain your health?

Amy:

Oh I want to keep moving.

Holly Wyatt:

You want to keep moving.

Amy:

I want to keep moving .

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah. How do you want to feel.

Jim Hill:

You are basically having too much fun to go back to the way you were.

Amy:

Exactly. Yeah, there's no way.

Jim Hill:

And that's what it's about. At the end of the day, it's about our quality of life. Weight is only one little part of that.

Amy:

That's right.

Holly Wyatt:

And you've experienced it now. And you're saying, there's no way I'm going to go back because what I'm living right now is so good. And my weight loss is part of it, but it's not all of it, but it's part of it. And there's no way I would return.

Jim Hill:

And by the way, you can't see her, but Amy looks fantastic. And you can tell from how she’s described her life, her life is great too. And why would you want to go back to the way you were before?

Amy:

It's funny because at the beginning, the first year or so, I think that's why I signed up for the year of one of your successive classes after that right away, because I was a little scared, you know, like, oh, I'm going to gain this weight back. I don't ever want to go back, but it's not so fear-based anymore. It's more just staying kind of in the groove.

Jim Hill:

Well, what we've found, Holly, if you remember in the National Weight Control Registry, the group of successful people we follow, they tell us after a while, it's like, I know I still have to work at it, but I know I'm going to do it. In other words, not suddenly it got easy and everything. Still, I have to spend some time, but I know I've got it. I know I'm not going back. And it sounds like that's kind of where you are.

Amy:

Yeah. And it's easier now also just thinking about that because initially, I remember saying to myself, weight loss was 16 weeks, did it, steps A, B, C, D, E, I got there. And then I would have moments during maintenance where I was like, this is forever. It was overwhelming.

Jim Hill:

Yeah, I know.

Amy:

This is forever. And then it's eased off. I'm just thinking of that now. It's eased off in the last few years. But I have been looking for something, a new dimension with the exercise piece. And that's where this cycling group.

Holly Wyatt:

And that's important. You keep evolving, right? It's never done. You're just find the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. And I always say, would you want it to be done? Because if it's done, you're dead.

Amy:

That's right.

Holly Wyatt:

So last big question for you. What's next? Do you have new goals? I know we'd have the cycling, but is that the big thing for you or any other new goals or dreams on the horizon? What are you planning?

Amy:

That is the big one right now because I just got started really in July where I had that aha of, wow, I didn't really even know what a cyclist, what cycling is. Now I know. Yeah, I would say that that is it. But I'm finding that I'm looking more and more for these opportunities to step out of my comfort zone. Because there's something on the other side of that that's going to be pretty cool.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah, it's addicting too.

Amy:

Yeah.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah. So good.

Jim Hill:

Well, Amy, thank you so much for sharing your incredible story. You are going to be an inspiration for a lot of people out there, believe it. And this is the time of year where people need to start their journey. But as you said, it's not a January journey. It's a lifetime journey. And it's more than just the wait. It's really your life. And it sounds like you've done a wonderful job of achieving a life and a wait that truly brings you joy.

Amy:

Thank you.

Holly Wyatt:

Yeah. Thank you for getting vulnerable.

Amy:

Yes.

Holly Wyatt:

Getting uncomfortable and being willing to be on the podcast.

Amy:

Thank you, guys.

Holly Wyatt:

Bye, everybody.

Jim Hill:

And that's a wrap for today's episode of Weight Loss And. We hope you enjoy diving into the world of weight loss with us.

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